Medium Square Square
Photo © Andrew, all rights reserved
1412–1434 US-2, Saint Ignace, Michigan, US (Google, OSM)
45.8698333333, -84.796
open
Aug. 09, 2012 09:50:07 -0400
Logo-eee-15px

Comments & Identifications

4623-thumb
Ringneck Snake - Photo (c) A. Jaszlics, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC)
ryanubrown's ID: Ringneck Snake (Diadophis punctatus)
Posted by ryanubrown over 1 year ago (Flag)
4334-thumb
Northern Ringneck Snake - Photo (c) Mike VanValen, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
awebster's ID: Northern Ringneck Snake (Diadophis punctatus ssp. edwardsii)
Posted by awebster over 1 year ago (Flag)
3816-thumb
Northern Ringneck Snake - Photo (c) Mike VanValen, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
ttadevosyan's ID: Northern Ringneck Snake (Diadophis punctatus ssp. edwardsii)
Posted by ttadevosyan over 1 year ago (Flag)
4334-thumb

Can anyone tell me why this isn't a research grade identification? I have other ID's that only have the genus, we have this down to the correct species, three people agree.

Posted by awebster over 1 year ago (Flag)
3816-thumb

My guess is because ryanubrown's idntified it the species level. And the system considers this a a discrepancy.

Posted by ttadevosyan over 1 year ago (Flag)
477-thumb
Northern Ringneck Snake - Photo (c) Mike VanValen, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
loarie's ID: Northern Ringneck Snake (Diadophis punctatus ssp. edwardsii)
Posted by loarie over 1 year ago (Flag)
477-thumb

Tigran's correct, its now research grade because >50% of the community now agrees with the owner (expand Data Quality Assessment to the right) but its still counting ryanubrown's ID as a 'disagree'. There might be a better way for the system to deal with this, but its ambiguous in cases like this whether ryanubrown is saying 'I agree to species but I'm not sure beyond that' or if he's saying 'you're wrong about the subspecies so I disagree with those IDs'. What would be the best way for the system to deal with this?

Posted by loarie over 1 year ago (Flag)
4334-thumb

We could just call Loarie to tip the scales, or maybe the research grade assessment should ignore the ssp identification, and just use the species Identifier.

In other words, it would still be research grade, even if the ssp. identification is wrong, and TT was arguing that we had misidentified the subspecies, it still would qualify as research grade, as long as the species matches.

Posted by awebster over 1 year ago (Flag)
Sign in or Sign up to add comments
Sign in or Sign up to add identifications

Identification Summary

Northern Ringneck Snake - Photo (c) Mike VanValen, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
awebster's ID: Northern Ringneck Snake (Diadophis punctatus ssp. edwardsii)
Northern Ringneck Snake - Photo (c) Mike VanValen, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
Community ID: Northern Ringneck Snake (Diadophis punctatus ssp. edwardsii)
About
ttadevosyan loarie 2 people agree
Ringneck Snake - Photo (c) A. Jaszlics, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC)
ryanubrown's ID: Ringneck Snake (Diadophis punctatus)

Suggest an ID

Sign in or Sign up to add IDs
Logo-eee-15px
Logo-eee-15px
Logo-eee-15px

Data Quality Assessment

Community-supported ID? Yes
2 people agree
0 people disagree
Date? Yes
Georeferenced? Yes
Photos or sounds? Yes
Is the organism wild/naturalized?
Yes awebster 100%
No 0%
What do you think?
Yes / No
Does the location seem accurate?
Yes awebster 100%
No 0%
What do you think?
Yes / No
Does the date seem accurate? Unknown
What do you think?
Yes / No
Quality grade research
Details Hide Details
Logo-eee-15px
Observation © Andrew
Cc-by_small some rights reserved

Is this observation inappropriate, spam, or offensive? Flag this observation

If you think this observation is inaccurate, please add an ID, participate in the quality assessment above, or describe the inaccuracy in a comment.

Logo-eee-15px