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39.6604867948, -74.1602897644 (Google, OSM) Out of range!
39.6604867948, -74.1602897644
Accuracy: 750m
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We found this washed up on the shore, so the commonness is unknown. About a foot long, alone.

Sep. 01, 2012 17:35:33 -0400
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Way cool, though I think this may not be Belone belone, which appears to be European. This NJ DEP checklist lists three needlefish in NJ's waters:

http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/Strongylura_marina
http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/Ablennes_hians
http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/Tylosurus_acus

Strongylura marina is the only one they consider "common", so I bet that's what this is. It might be easier to ID if you can provide pics of the whole fish.

Posted by kueda over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Thank you very much for your help with this. I just looked in a marine bio book for a picture that looked very similar, but this research helps. I added a new picture, of the full body.

The main reason why I chose my original species is because of the green coloring on the spinal portion, which is supposed to be characteristic of this species.

Posted by nickb42697 over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Well, I think we can rule out Tylosurus acus from the shape of the dorsal fin. I'd be tempted to rule out Ablennes hians due to the lack of any vertical markings on the sides. Personally I'd rule out Belone belone based on range, but I'd prefer some kind of morphological argument. Maybe someone who knows their East Coast fish will chime in.

Posted by kueda over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Atlantic Needlefish - Photo (c) NOAA Photo Library, some rights reserved (CC BY)
nickb42697's ID: Atlantic Needlefish (Strongylura marina)
Posted by nickb42697 over 2 years ago (Flag)
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I agree with what you said about Belone belone being out of range, so it's unlikely. Ablennes hians also has a differently shaped pelvic fin, so that one's probably out too. Strongylura marina is probably correct. And I'm not really a fish expert, so I hope so too.

Posted by nickb42697 over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Atlantic Needlefish - Photo (c) NOAA Photo Library, some rights reserved (CC BY)
nickb42697's ID: Atlantic Needlefish (Strongylura marina)

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