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Photo © Addis O'Connor, all rights reserved
Marina, CA (Google, OSM)
36.7004370804, -121.7932787949
Accuracy: 14m
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Description

Mustard family, yellow flower, very common to roadsides.

Apr. 26, 2012 14:55:53 -0700
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I thought it was in the mustard family! Thanks!

Posted by plantpro almost 2 years ago (Flag)
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shortpod mustard - Photo (c) Bas Kers, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
charlie's ID: shortpod mustard (Hirschfeldia incana)
Posted by charlie almost 2 years ago (Flag)
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I am leaning towards Hirschfeldia incana, it's really hard to distinguish from brassica and hard to describe why I am tending this way but the flowers are a bit duller colored and the pods smaller (thus the name). the leaves also feel soft to the touch while brassica leaves do not (which of course I can't tell from the photo)

Posted by charlie almost 2 years ago (Flag)
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Hmmm, good point, it's probably better to err on the side of caution so I've changed my ID to the higher level. Can't wait for the "textured photograph" app to come out.

Posted by invertboy almost 2 years ago (Flag)
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mustards - Photo (c) Martin LaBar, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC)
invertboy's ID: mustards (Family Brassicaceae)
Posted by invertboy almost 2 years ago (Flag)
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shortpod mustard - Photo (c) Bas Kers, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
plantpro's ID: shortpod mustard (Hirschfeldia incana)
Posted by plantpro almost 2 years ago (Flag)
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It's really a shame that two species in different genuses look so similar. Not sure by which grounds they were separated into two genuses.

If you find dead ones, another Id feature: black mustard has black seeds, short pod mustard has pale brown seeds. Black mustard is also much taller and more likely to be single stemmed... Same is true for brassica rapa I believe.

Posted by charlie almost 2 years ago (Flag)
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Generic similarities are tough, but you should look into marine invertebrate taxonomy, where sometimes just being able to differentiate between families or higher is considered a success!

Posted by invertboy almost 2 years ago (Flag)
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Identification Summary

shortpod mustard - Photo (c) Bas Kers, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
plantpro's ID: shortpod mustard (Hirschfeldia incana)
mustards - Photo (c) Martin LaBar, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC)
Community ID: mustards (Family Brassicaceae)
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shortpod mustard - Photo (c) Bas Kers, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
charlie's ID: shortpod mustard (Hirschfeldia incana)

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