7175479992_172e76f10c
Photo © BJ Smit, all rights reserved
Montenegro (Google, OSM)
42.3652665008, 18.9692687988
Accuracy: 1566m
open
May. 11, 2012 17:26:37 +0200
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Comments & Identifications

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Got him!

Posted by muir over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Definitely Natrix natrix, not sure about subspecies though.

Posted by ttadevosyan over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Grass Snake - Photo (c) Vitaliy Khustochka, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC)
bjsmit's ID: Grass Snake (Natrix natrix)
Posted by bjsmit over 2 years ago (Flag)
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you are right, this snake is missing the two lines on the back that the other snakes did have in the lake.

Posted by bjsmit over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Interesting. When I was initially trained, I learnt about this diagnotric role of stripes in Natrix persa. But later on, when I saw striping in another subspecies (N. n. scuttatta), and stripless snakes in striped "persa" populations, I started to think 0that striping is not really a reliable diagnostic feature, and that phylogeny and systematics of Grass Snakes seems to be much more complex than we believe. Unfortunately I have never got a chance to run a study of these guys, but still it is very interesting. Just thinking;)

Posted by ttadevosyan over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Grass Snake - Photo (c) Vitaliy Khustochka, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC)
ttadevosyan's ID: Grass Snake (Natrix natrix)
Posted by ttadevosyan over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Grass Snake - Photo (c) Vitaliy Khustochka, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC)
hcuohc's ID: Grass Snake (Natrix natrix)
Posted by hcuohc over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Grass Snake - Photo (c) Vitaliy Khustochka, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC)
bjsmit's ID: Grass Snake (Natrix natrix)
Grass Snake - Photo (c) Vitaliy Khustochka, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC)
Community ID: Grass Snake (Natrix natrix)
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