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Ventura, US-CA, US, NA
Public coordinates obscured by 10KM
May. 28, 2012 18:28:46 -0700
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Lepechinia - Photo (c) Andreas Philipp, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-ND)
charlie's ID: Genus Lepechinia, a member of Mint Family (Family Lamiaceae)
Posted by charlie over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Looks like a Lepechinia! Did you notice a strong scent? This is a neat plant... and they are quite variable. The type we have in the Santa Monicas is L. fragrans but I remember the San Gabriels had a different species so this might not be that. It's worth looking up, as some of them are rather rare.

Posted by charlie over 2 years ago (Flag)
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I've wondered about this plant for some time. I've seen it on other trips in this area, but was never sure where to start with it. I couldn't comment on the scent, the sage was in full bloom, so all I could smell was sage. Now that I have a genus ID, I'll pay closer attention to this one, thanks as always Charlie!

Posted by zabbey over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Lepechinia - Photo (c) Andreas Philipp, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-ND)
zabbey's ID: Genus Lepechinia, a member of Mint Family (Family Lamiaceae)
Posted by zabbey over 2 years ago (Flag)
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You're welcome! Definitely keep an eye out for this one. It likes burns but can persist for years as an understory plant. If you ever do the Mishe Mowqua loop in the western Santa Monicas... there is tons of it there, or at least was a few years ago. Not sure how long it persists after fire.

Posted by charlie over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Didn't know that about this plants, learn something knew everyday. The area this plant is in was burned in the "Day Fire" which I believe was in 2006. I know I've seen it along that trail in years past, and it's still going strong.

I'll be sure to check out that loop next time I'm in the Santa Monicas.

Posted by zabbey over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Definitely one of my favorite parts of that mountain range.

Posted by charlie over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Yes sir, one of my favorite places as well. I've had some good times out there, http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/33230.

At the risk of sounding like a cantankerous old coot, I have noticed the foot traffic out there has increased significantly over the past couple of years, which I fear my lead to the rangers closing the easement along the creek being that it is in the condor sanctuary. I've seen a lot more trash and graffiti in the canyon as of late, just google "tar creek" and you will see what I'm talking about, tons of youtube vids of people doing the big jumps. Not that people haven't been doing the jumps for years, they just didn't have the medium to show others where and how to get there.

Posted by zabbey over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Yeah, there are downsides of the place-based technology, liek being able to see my favorite places on Google Earth so that others can too. I've never actually been to Tar Creek, and was thinking of Mishe Moqua when I said it was one of my favorite areas, but I'd really love to see that Tar Creek area someday, maybe it's too late

Posted by charlie over 2 years ago (Flag)
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Oh I see, I need to check out Mishe Moqua.

Tar creek is still well worth it, especially early season spring during the week, when it's not hot out and prime swimming time.

Posted by zabbey over 2 years ago (Flag)
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While doing a CNDDB query I noticed that L. rossii is listed as occurring in this area, whether or not this is indeed a specimen I can say but it could be...

Posted by zabbey about 1 year ago (Flag)
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Ross' pitcher sage - Photo (c) Smithsonian Institution, National Museum of Natural History, Department of Botany, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
zabbey's ID: Ross' pitcher sage (Lepechinia rossii)
Posted by zabbey 9 months ago (Flag)
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After keying this species out it seems to be L. rossii, based on the following:
LF: 3-13 cm. ovate to deltate-ovate, base truncate to cordate, irregularly and shallowly serrate to dentate
INFL: axis bent 60-90° relative to st; bracts ascending
FL: pedicel 1.2-1.3 cm; calyx bell-shaped
FR: glabrous

Posted by zabbey 9 months ago (Flag)
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Yeah, that sounds right. The bent inflorescence is pretty notable. Neat!

Posted by charlie 9 months ago (Flag)
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Ross' pitcher sage - Photo (c) Smithsonian Institution, National Museum of Natural History, Department of Botany, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
charlie's ID: Ross' pitcher sage (Lepechinia rossii)
Posted by charlie 9 months ago (Flag)
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Ross' pitcher sage - Photo (c) Smithsonian Institution, National Museum of Natural History, Department of Botany, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
zabbey's ID: Ross' pitcher sage (Lepechinia rossii)
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Ross' pitcher sage - Photo (c) Smithsonian Institution, National Museum of Natural History, Department of Botany, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
Community ID: Ross' pitcher sage (Lepechinia rossii)
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