Intermediate between black and one of the evergreen red oaks. I'm not clear which reds are up here. Canyon live, shreve, interior live? Lots of agrifolia.
Extensive stand on serpentine on pine hill
Red oak. Canyon? Shreve? Interior live? Deep cups. Distinct from avrifolia around here. Leaf undersides glaucous, a little bit lighter than upper but not silvery or yellow.
Leaves shallow lobed, yellowish green hairs on underside. Lots of durata nearby
How.much further north does this go?
Found in an orb web next to my front door. Scale not evident in photo but it was quite large, about 1" across.