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apple (Malus domestica) seanblaney Thu, 25 Jan 2018 16:40:13 +0000

should Malus pumila and M. x domestica both be offered? Not for Canada, according to VASCAN

jameskm

Was swapped.

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There are three flags pertaining to this issue:
https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/212504
https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/273191
https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/279665

According to POWO, Malus pumila is a synonym of Malus domestica (not Malus × domestica).

We should be offering only one possibility, and the logical one is Malus domestica, if we are to follow POWO. There are 731 observations of M. ×domestica and 2,023 obs of M. pumila, so a little discussion would be useful.

I propose merging both M. pumila and M. ×domestica into a new Malus domestica, unless the preference is to edit the existing taxon name for M. ×domestica and merging M. pumila into it.

Posted by mftasp over 2 years ago (Flag)

Thanks @mftasp! Malus domestica (incl. M. pumila + M. x domestica) sounds good to me. I am not sure how to make this happen.

Posted by seanblaney over 2 years ago (Flag)

I'm happy to draft the taxon merge, but we should see first if there are more people who'd like to chip in.

Posted by mftasp over 2 years ago (Flag)

@rowan_hindmarsh_walls or @loarie can you please edit this taxon name to remove the hybrid symbol, following Plants of the World Online? https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/469472/edit

Malus domestica Borkh. (1803), when proposed as a replacement name for Pyrus malus L. (1753), was superfluous for Malus communis Desf. (1798). Qian & al.’s (Taxon 59: 650-652. 2010) proposal to treat the name M. domestica as a new combination and to conserve it (against M. pumila, M. communis, M. frutescens, and Pyrus dioica) was approved at the Shenzhen Botanical Congress held in Jul 2017 (see Taxon 66: 1238. 2017)
Posted by bouteloua over 2 years ago (Flag)

Thanks @bouteloua

Posted by mftasp over 2 years ago (Flag)

@loarie this is a pretty big taxon change - https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/59138 (6000 obs on the input taxon)

can you edit the output taxon https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/469472/edit to remove the hybrid symbol and commit the change when it makes sense for load on the server?

http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:726282-1

Posted by bouteloua about 1 year ago (Flag)

first part done

Posted by loarie about 1 year ago (Flag)

Can we start this process up again? @jaquiring flagged M. pumila again today, so this is still an issue.

Posted by zdanko 6 months ago (Flag)

2.5 years and this issue hasn't been resolved? I learned it as M. pumila and that M. domestica is a synonym. Don't have a problem merging other way though but these are definitely synonyms and should be merged.

Posted by alrekur_kleinsasser 3 months ago (Flag)

Just committed https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/59138 and will watch to see how long it churns for

Posted by loarie 3 months ago (Flag)

Already moved 2000 observations so far.

Posted by zdanko 3 months ago (Flag)

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