Flag for Taxon: Green Cala Lily (Form Zantedeschia aethiopica 'green goddess')
| Flagger | Content Author | Content | Reason | Flag Created | Resolved by | Resolution |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| tonyrebelo | Green Cala Lily (Form Zantedeschia aethiopica 'green goddess') |
Are cultivars like this to be encouraged: there is not even an observation for it - make it a "synonym" of the species |
Nov. 27, 2018 07:31:04 +0000 | tonyrebelo |
resolved - hopefully! |
Comments
No, please "synonymize" with the species when you see cultivars.
Perhaps in the future there could be a "Cultivars" section under "Names".
Whoops: this has lots of records in New Zealand. WIll find out what the NZ think before deciding ...
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/43611
I think this should probably be committed. What does it matter that some of them have green flowers and some white, if that is the only meaningful difference between them and it hasn't been seen as important enough to be described at a taxonomic rank? All species have some morphological variability, and especially cultivated species.
Have you read the discussion? You are welcome to commit it, but I am not brave enough to ...
I did read it. Those two don't seem to want it. I won't commit it, either.
I think the gist is that one particular cultivar has gone rampant in New Zealand. As such it is of significance.
I think that if we had particular horticultural cultivars invasive in South Africa, I would also motivate for them to be specified. How best to deal with it (as a species, or as an Observation Field) can be debated.
But how to reconcile this with the iNat guidelines is another issue.
Copying the text I had added to the taxon change here in case someone decides to delete it:
Not a form. Cultivars aren't represented as separate taxa on iNaturalist. No infraspecific taxa are accepted on Plants of the World Online: http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/89403-1
No named forms or varieties appear to exist for this taxon: https://www.ipni.org/?q=Zantedeschia%20aethiopica
See https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/294247 for previous discussion.
See also https://www.inaturalist.org/identifications?taxon_id=414930¤t=any for finding observations formerly classified under this cultivar, so as to instead add an observation field, comment, or otherwise track these for your own external purposes.
So: are you going to commit this?
In New Zealand, there is field evidence that 'Green Goddess' is ecologically different from the 'normal' white form of Z. aethiopica. See https://www.nzpcn.org.nz/flora/species/zantedeschia-aethiopica-cv-green-goddess/
My own experience is that 'Green Goddess' grows, flowers and sets seed in deeper shade than the white form. Plants also tend to 'throw' a lot more seedlings, i.e. it is a more aggressive weed in New Zealand lowland forest than the white form, which becomes a weed in wet soils in sunny locations. Where in the world did 'Green Goddess' actually appear first? Have the two forms been compared genetically, including DNA sequencing?
interesting:
Zantedeschia aethiopica 'green goddess'
gets displayed as
Zantedeschia aethiopica 'green f. goddess'
Lots of issues here: but most importanatly -'- is not allowed in a scientific name (in the botanical code anyway). Plus " and ' interfere with filters and cannot be displayed using them.
(But I have used them in a few instances, so I need to know if these are outlawed).