Flag for Taxon: Bovids (Family Bovidae)
| Flagger | Content Author | Content | Reason | Flag Created | Resolved by | Resolution |
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| loarie | Bovids (Family Bovidae) |
should we follow MDD here? |
Jan. 4, 2019 23:35:46 +0000 | loarie |
see comments |
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Hi, @loarie
Are you suggesting they use, for example, "Aepycerotini" instead of "Aepycerotinae", or is Aepycerotini a child of Aepycerotinae?
Do you have a reference link? When I look on the MDD site or ASM Species Checklist, I don't see any subfamilial groups. I'm guessing that I'm just not looking in the right place.
Its annoying subfamilies and tribes aren't displayed on the website, because they're in the API e.g. https://mammaldiversity.org/api/q=capra+ibex
they are:
MDD:
Subfamily Bovinae
Tribe Tragelaphini
Tribe Bovini
Tribe Boselaphini
Subfamily Antilopinae
Tribe Antilopini
Tribe Caprini
Tribe Alcelaphini
Tribe Cephalophini
Tribe Reduncini
Tribe Neotragini
Tribe Oreotragini
iNat:
Subfamily Bovinae
Subfamily Antilopinae
Subfamily Aepycerotinae
Subfamily Alcelaphinae
Subfamily Caprinae
Subfamily Cephalophinae
Subfamily Hippotraginae
Subfamily Peleinae
Subfamily Reduncinae
in short, MDD lumps Peleinae and Reduncinae into Reduncinae and then puts Aepycerotinae, Alcelaphinae, Caprinae, Cephalophinae, Hippotraginae, Reduncinae as tribes within Antilopinae
I see it now, thanks.
This is an interesting scheme. I personally hadn't seen it before, but I did not look into bovid taxonomy critically until now. On the MDD, Antilopinae and Bovinae have been raised to serve as the equivalency of Aegodontia and Boodontia, respectively. The general convention [I see in most recent scientific publications] follows the scheme on MDD, but I have found papers that promote the subfamilies Hippotraginae, Caprinae, and Alcelaphinae published fairly recently, so I don't think there is consensus on this subject yet.
I don't have strong feelings against adopting the MDD for iNaturalist: the phylogenetic closeness within the bovines/boodonts and antilopines/aegodonts have been understood for some time. However, I would be more comfortable adopting the tribe-heavy scheme employed on the MDD if there was a specific paper favoring this approach, but in my (admittedly limited) search, I could not find one. @jwidness do you know if Nate has a source?
The MDD is following Grubb and Groves 2011.
I haven't seen anything published since then arguing against the split between Bovinae and Antilopinae (though I've seen some recent non-taxonomic papers that have used the older names).
There is both complete mtDNA and nuclear satellite data supporting the two subfamily classification, but there isn't total agreement at the tribe level.
Kingdon's Mammals of Africa 2012 reviews some of the literature. See also:
Hassanin, Alexandre, et al. "Pattern and timing of diversification of Cetartiodactyla (Mammalia, Laurasiatheria), as revealed by a comprehensive analysis of mitochondrial genomes." Comptes rendus biologies 335.1 (2012): 32-50.
Kopecna, Olga, et al. "Tribe-specific satellite DNA in non-domestic Bovidae." Chromosome research 22.3 (2014): 277-291.
Yang, Chengzhong, et al. "Phylogenetic analyses and improved resolution of the family Bovidae based on complete mitochondrial genomes." Biochemical systematics and ecology 48 (2013): 136-143.
Grubb & Groves. "Ungulate Taxonomy". 2011. (http://zmmu.msu.ru/files/%D0%91%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0%20%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0/grubb-groves-2011_taxonomy_ungulates.pdf)
Thanks for the references, Jane. My reservations weren't at the division between Bovinae and Antilopinae, more so on the tribal designations, but in reviewing the material I feel more comfortable with us adopting the scheme used on the MDD.
ok thanks - it now matches MDD
@bobby23
MDD has subfamilies and also tribes here that are different from the whats currently going on here. Should we follow MDD?
Aepycerotinae -> Aepycerotini
Alcelaphinae -> Alcelaphini
Caprinae -> Caprini
Cephalophinae -> Cephalophini
Hippotraginae -> Hippotragini
Reduncinae, Peleinae -> Reduncini