Flag for Taxon: Rough Falsepea (Polygala scabra)
| Flagger | Content Author | Content | Reason | Flag Created | Resolved by | Resolution |
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| tonyrebelo | Rough Falsepea (Polygala scabra) |
changes needed |
Jul. 8, 2021 12:37:48 +0000 | loarie |
see comments |
Comments
any chance you can try to get POWO to make the change on your end and we follow POWO for now?
POWO is not our end - that is KEW. We have BODATSA.
POWO follows basinyms, not incorrect use.
So what is valid is that what we are calling P. scabra on iNaturalist (and southern Africa) is P. affinis and the swap needs to be made.
Drop the P. scabra that is indeterminate. If POWO makes it a synonym of P. bowkeri that is irrelevant as it is a different concept and not in use anyway. It is purely a taxonomical issue with no relevance to iNaturalist (because no one knows what the plants look like and therefore cannot make or have made any IDs of it).
But to quote from the butterfly example:
we have two names for the same thing on iNaturalist:
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/568656-Polygala-scabra is the same thing as https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/913976-Polygala-affinis
The two need to be merged. P. scabra is redundant. P. affinis is the name in use
POWO recognizes P. affinis: http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:690993-1
So all the observations that are P. scabra need to be renamed P. affinis
I dont care what we do with the POWO name P. scabra - ignore it. But we need it as a synonym on iNat for people using the old field guides with the name P. scabra for P. affinis (it is there already).
OK I swapped scabra into affinis https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/95372
but lets hold off on separating scabra from Polygala bowkerae if thats ok
Perfect by me. Thanks.
see https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/85930953
details here: http://opus.sanbi.org/bitstream/20.500.12143/7573/1/Bothalia43_2_2013.pdf
This needs two steps:
a taxonomy swap :: P scabra must go to P. affinis (https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/913976-Polygala-affinis) = this is the concept being used currently on iNat.
Polygala scabra (of a different concept) needs to be created. Note that the paper differs from POWO: POWO sinks this to P. bowkerii, but BODATSA and the paper prefer to keep it as an undefined (unplaced) entity.
I am unconvinced by us adding this concept to iNaturalist, as in theory it is not possible to add any specimens/observations to this name on iNat because it is undetermined and thus cannot be identified as such with any reliability. Strictly, I would have thought that if P. scabra was P. bowkerii then the priority name would be P. scabra, and P. bowkeri would be the synonym?
@loarie - can this be done please.