Flag for Taxon: Ocoee Salamander (Desmognathus ocoee)
| Flagger | Content Author | Content | Reason | Flag Created | Resolved by | Resolution |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| evangrimes | Ocoee Salamander (Desmognathus ocoee) |
D. ocoee has been split by the continued work of (surprise) Pyron and Beamer into 4 distinct species |
Sep. 28, 2022 11:50:03 +0000 | loarie |
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@loarie the only thing left is to readjust the D. ocoee map, which I don't know how to do with that pre-made range map polygon.
Are you sure this needs to be split - looks like as its structured it, 440 IDs will stay with Desmognathus ocoee but most (1072) will roll back to genus, is this your intent? Will you be able to roll them forward to those other species with new IDs?
Total IDs of input taxon: 1523
Number of IDs Destination Atlas
440 Desmognathus ocoee Atlased
0 Desmognathus adatsihi Atlased
0 Desmognathus balsameus Atlased
0 Desmognathus perlapsus Atlased
11 Desmognathus Outside of all atlases
1072 Desmognathus Overlapping atlases
RE the range maps, they are loaded as status assets called 'Taxon Ranges'
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_ranges/1588
which you can get to from the lower right of the taxon/edit page
by default they are IUCN ranges, but if the IUCN range doesn't exist or isn't suitable it can be overridden with a manual one like this
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_ranges/51615
to make the ranges I use QGIS which is a free version of ArcGIS, which usually entails downloading the IUCN version of the taxon range, carving it up in some way into new kmls. Does that make sense? Are your questions more about taxon range functionality on iNat or how to manipulate the ranges offline using something like QGIS?
After I adjust the D. ocoee atlas the split ID's should populate the correct taxa as there isn't really any overlap in the new species ranges once you get sub-county level. I think it is appearing that way since I have not done that yet. I think I was curious if the Taxon Range for D. ocoee would cause me any issues by changing the atlas for that species.
@loarie D. ocoee sensu stricto map updated, now populates the split as
Total IDs of input taxon: 1524
Number of IDs Destination Atlas
376 Desmognathus ocoee Atlased
173 Desmognathus adatsihi Atlased
44 Desmognathus balsameus Atlased
33 Desmognathus perlapsus Atlased
75 Desmognathus Outside of all atlases
823 Desmognathus Overlapping atlases
With information about location for most individuals a majority of those in overlapping atlases can be rolled forward to the new species. A few counties near GSMNP end up like they did with the blackbelly split. Most of the overlap seem to be in Swain County, NC for ocoee and adatsihi, Macon County NC for ocoee and perlapsus, and Haywood County where confirmed specimen tip into 3 corners of it.
Yeah myself and a few others should be able to go through and roll many forward! Should be good to commit. A friend should have a shapefile worked up next week to better clarify which parts of overlapping counties certain species are. Could be a potential resource to add to these new species too.
OK great - committed https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/114885
let me know if you have any issues with the taxon ranges
@evangrimes just checking in - any update on these taxon ranges?
Pyron and Beamer 2022.
D. ocoee has been split along a handful of montane watersheds into D. adatsihi (Cherokee Mountain Dusky Salamander), D. balsameus (Great Balsams Dusky Salamander), D. perlapsus (Chattooga Dusky Salamander) and D. ocoee sensu stricto. I can get started on the split and atlases for these.
Pyron, R. Alexander, and David A. Beamer. “Systematics of the Ocoee Salamander (Plethodontidae: Desmognathus Ocoee), with Description of Two New Species from the Southern Blue Ridge Mountains.” Zootaxa 5190, no. 2 (September 28, 2022): 207–40. https://doi.org/10.11646/zootaxa.5190.2.3.