Heads up: Some or all of the identifications affected by this split may have been replaced with identifications of Lithospermum. This happens when we can't automatically assign an identification to one of the output taxa. Review identifications of Onosmodium bejariense 194671

Taxonomic Split 36633 (Committed on 2018-09-21)

Plants of the World Online (Citation)
Added by bouteloua on August 13, 2018 09:29 PM | Committed by bouteloua on September 21, 2018
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Does this split look complete? Am I missing any taxa?

Regarding #4, I see that Plants of the World Online treats these taxa a bit differently than Weakley 2015. They recognize neither O. b. subsp. hispidissimum nor L. parviflorum, deferring both to L. carolinianum. @whiteoak / @destes does this look correct/can you comment on this?

Posted by bouteloua over 5 years ago

Out of the split of O. bejariense, as reference din previous comment, L. carolinense is not part of this problem.

In addition to those you have split out, we need to additoinally recognize L. parviflorum and L. bejariense (sensu stricto)

Posted by destes over 5 years ago

Thanks -- iNaturalist is likely to move to Plants of the World Online as a global authority for vascular plants soon (removing Weakley 2015 as a regional authority), so this group may need to be brought up to POWO directly or treated as an "explicit deviation from POWO." See https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/265216

Specifically--that POWO treats
-Lithospermum parviflorum as a synonym of L. carolinianum
-Lithospermum bejariense as a synonym of L. caroliniense

Posted by bouteloua over 5 years ago

I think it needs to be brought up to POWO but who makes the call? At a global level in my opinion they should trust or rely on regional experts like Weakley et al. ???

Thoughts?

Posted by destes over 5 years ago

https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/265216
We're directly discussing this on this flag here, check the last few comments which have a link to a spreadsheet of requests within Boraginaceae to bring up to POWO. (I'm on my phone right now but will make sure these get on there if not already.)

Posted by bouteloua over 5 years ago

Having a hard time finding information about Lithospermum bejariense (sensu stricto). It's not included in Weakley 2015. What's its range? Is there a good source I can cite for this explicit deviation request?

Posted by bouteloua over 5 years ago

Lithospermum bejariense @whiteoak should be in TX, OK, sw. AR, nw. LA disjunct east to w. KY, w. and wc. TN and se TN, nw, wc. and sw AL (Little Mountains, Black Belt), ene MS, possibly in nw. GA.

Billie Turner greatly confused this species and no one has really clarified it since any better.

Alan, this is something would be good for an update in your next update.

Posted by destes over 5 years ago

From Rafaël Govaerts at Kew: "I agree [Lithospermum parviflorum] needs to be accepted." presumably meaning POWO will add it
See his questions re: L. bejariense here: https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/36645

Posted by loarie over 5 years ago

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