Taxonomic Swap 40353 (Committed on 2018-11-26)

The informal "Sigmurethra" has been formally designated as the suborder Helicina.

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Added by jonathan142 on September 26, 2018 06:10 AM | Committed by loarie on November 26, 2018
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@loarie - we probably want to update our gastropod taxonomy to be more in line with our authorities. At present, "Sigmurethra" (which was never really a suborder but an informal taxon) has been replaced with the concept of the formal suborder Helicina.

Posted by jonathan142 over 5 years ago

@jonathan142 it seems like this species got left out of the taxon swap, or has some sort of grafting problem?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/16146203 I don't know how to fix grafting yet, if that is it, I'd be happy to learn.

Posted by lincolndurey over 5 years ago

Peculiar. On the subspecies page, I see that very issue up to Punctoidea as being grafted to "Sigmurethra". But going to one of the parent taxa (even just species) shows grafting to the active Helicina. It may be the same reason why "Sigmurethra" shows no descendants on the taxon page yet still a number of descendant taxa and observations.

I believe I was able to essentially force the server to re-cache through a fairly simple trick (let me know if it displays differently to you).

(The trick, by the way, is editing the taxon, re-grafting to the appropriate parent -species here-, and then saving the page.)

Posted by jonathan142 over 5 years ago

@loarie a bunch of taxa still shows up under Sigmurethra. Can anything be done about it?

Posted by jakob over 5 years ago

I tried Jonathan's trick of re-graphting the species on 3-4, and it worked (but there are a few...)

Posted by lincolndurey over 5 years ago

the good news is the data in the database is right. It looks like the system we use to deliver data quickly (called Elastic Search) got out of sync. Sometimes Elastic Search craps out for various reasons. As mentioned there are a lot of things that trigger reindexing (like grafting) that will probably sort this out eventually. But on the otherhand, its probably Elastic Search getting overheated by too many indexing jobs that caused it to crap out in the first place

This is the main reason we've been trying to lock down clades at the base of the tree and branches with alot of obs. Because reindexing taxa with thousands of obs - like these really strains the system. The good news is we reindex everything from time to time so these out of sync things should get sorted out eventually

Posted by loarie over 5 years ago

Hi Steven,
Last month (or possibly earlier), the taxon "Sigmurethrid Terrestrial Snails" was changed to "Helicinan Snails and Slugs".
Everything seems ok with that - but only down to subfamily level. Below that, many taxon are still linked to Sigmurethrid Terrestrial Snails and therefore show as inactive. EG. genus Delos.
I managed to fix some genus, species, and subspecies by grafting them individually, but this is a tiresome process. Is there an easier way to fix all these inactive taxon?
I'm surprised that the change at suborder level didn't flow down to the lowest taxon levels.
Regards,
Peter

Posted by stephen_thorpe over 5 years ago

yes, I regraphted at least 30 species 3 weeks ago, but the ones that I didn't do are still "inactive" as
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&taxon_id=55285&verifiable=any&view=species
so I doubt it is a caching thing at this late date.
20 more isn't that much to do by hand, but perhaps Scott, you'd like it kept a few days more to figure out what really happened ?

Posted by lincolndurey over 5 years ago

@loarie somehow there are still 108 observations under Sigmuretha

Posted by bouteloua over 4 years ago

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