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Photo © Ken-ichi Ueda, some rights reserved
Briones Regional Park, Contra Costa County, CA, USA (Google, OSM)
37.954302, -122.147389
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Hope I've got this ID right, I don't know anything about ants, but the giant spines on the thorax seem pretty distinct. Maybe 7 mm tops.

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Messor andrei - Photo (c) California Academy of Sciences, 2000-2010, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
kueda's ID: Messor andrei [inactive], a member of Ants (Family Formicidae) (inactive taxon)
Posted by kueda almost 3 years ago (Flag)
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This looks like a good ID. With the color, number of antenna parts, spikes, and how the body looks from the side, this looks like M. andrei. It is easily confused with genus Pogonomyrmex, but I don't think so this time.

Were there signs of harvesting of seeds?

Posted by curiousgeorge61 almost 3 years ago (Flag)
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Yup, I definitely saw them carrying seeds around. Does Pogonomyrmex not carry seeds?

Posted by kueda almost 3 years ago (Flag)
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Just wondering: did you notice any interaction between the crickets in the second picture and the ants? I know some ants tolerate crickets in their colonies because the crickets groom the worker ants.

Posted by eagle300 almost 3 years ago (Flag)
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They seemed a bit jumpy when they touched each other, but other than that no, didn't see any grooming or feeding or anything like that.

Posted by kueda almost 3 years ago (Flag)
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Pogonomyrmex and Messor are both harvesters.

Posted by curiousgeorge61 almost 3 years ago (Flag)
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Veromessor andrei - Photo (c) California Academy of Sciences, 2000-2010, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
kueda's ID: Veromessor andrei, a member of Ants (Family Formicidae) Added as part of a taxon swap
Posted by kueda 8 months ago (Flag)
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Veromessor andrei - Photo (c) California Academy of Sciences, 2000-2010, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
curiousgeorge61's ID: Veromessor andrei, a member of Ants (Family Formicidae) Added as part of a taxon swap
Posted by curiousgeorge61 8 months ago (Flag)
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Veromessor andrei - Photo (c) California Academy of Sciences, 2000-2010, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
kueda's ID: Veromessor andrei, a member of Ants (Family Formicidae) Added as part of a taxon swap
Veromessor andrei - Photo (c) California Academy of Sciences, 2000-2010, some rights reserved (CC BY-NC-SA)
curiousgeorge61's ID: Veromessor andrei, a member of Ants (Family Formicidae) Added as part of a taxon swap
kueda has chosen to retain control over the taxa associated with their observations
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