lemurph2's Identifications

I observed this organism at approximately 14:00 on a moss walk through the Evergreen beach trail with bryoliogists John Villella, Lalita Calabria, and the winter bryology program. Temperature was about 45 degrees Fahrenheit and drizzling.

The plant is tiny, green, living on a coniferous snag. Leaves incubus and have the “little hands” shape to Leppidoza reptans.

this plant was forming tight unbranched mats on a decaying long. the tips of these plants were naked ending with a ball of red gemmae. the sporophyts were sprouting from the stalks but some were at the tip.

We found this growing on the ground among leaf litter. There is a disagreement whether it is a moss or a vascular plant.
It kind of looks like a plagiothecium, but bigger. There does seem to be a root, though its short, so could be a rhizoid. It's stem is thick, with a clear costa/midrib visible to the naked eye. Leaves are thicker and longer than most mosses.

I vote on the side of vascular plant, but my colleague disagrees.

What do you think?

This is a Pellia neesiana plant. Collection number 101. This was about 5 miles down the Lower South Fork Skokomish river trail. Male and female plants are seperate in the species and I found both male and female plants but no plants that were both male and female at the same time.

I found two of these today the other one was just 1/2 mile down the trail.

This was growing about 35 feet up a very mature Big Leaf Maple tree (Acer macrophyllum). The tree with its many truncks fell across the trail so I was able to investigate the mid level-bryophytes growing on it.

Dorsal lobes are smaller than ventral lobes, both sets of lobes have teeth. Ventral lobe runs down stem, dorsal lobe does not.

This is growing as a turf with the tips curled down. On side view a stem looks very much like a green millipede with a red head.

Lobes are serrate at tip but entire near the base. Dorsal lobe is 1mm x 1mm ventral lobe is 2mm x1.5mm.

Cells are round to ovate size 25-30um. Plant is up to 5mm wide.

Green ovate balls on stalks were under dorsal lobes at tips of plant, if they were gemmea they were very big as I could clearly see the capsule and stalk with a 60X dissecting scope. Slo I think they must have been young sporophytes, especiall since I read that gemmea are only 2 celled.