Flag for Taxon: Great Kite-Swallowtail (Eurytides protesilaus)
| Flagger | Content Author | Content | Reason | Flag Created | Resolved by | Resolution |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| birdernaturalist | Great Kite-Swallowtail (Eurytides protesilaus) |
This should be synonymized with https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/475232-Protesilaus-protesilaus |
Sep. 19, 2019 21:52:49 +0000 | borisb |
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Looks like https://butterfliesofamerica.com/US-Can-Cat-1-30-2011.htm has Eurytides with Neographium as a nested subgenus whereas https://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/L/All.htm has Eurytides and Neographium as full species. Neither have Protographium.
Any objection to following https://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/L/All.htm (e.g. swapping Protographium sp into Eurytides and Neographium respectively and some Eurytides sp into Neographium?)?
@aleturkmen @maractwin?
I suggest following butterfliesoramerica.com for all the swallowtail genera, e.g. this one and Heraclides.
lets continue the conversation about Heraclides here https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/477746 and Pterourus here https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/472192
Curious what @nlblock thinks about Eurytides
@kwillmott @jmmaes @pdfuenteb - thoughts on whether we should follow BoA on Protographium/Eurytides/Neographium ?
That would mean the following swaps:
Protographium -> Neographium
..Protographium asius -> Neographium asius
..Protographium epidaus -> Neographium epidaus
....Protographium epidaus epidaus -> Neographium epidaus epidaus
....Protographium epidaus fenochionis -> Neographium epidaus fenochionis
....Protographium epidaus tepicus -> Neographium epidaus tepicus
..Protographium leucaspis -> Neographium leucaspis
..Eurytides philolaus -> Neographium philolaus
....Eurytides philolaus philolaus -> Neographium philolaus philolaus
....Eurytides philolaus xanticles -> Neographium philolaus xanticles
..Eurytides calliste -> Neographium calliste
....Eurytides calliste calliste -> Neographium calliste calliste
..Eurytides celadon -> Neographium celadon
..Eurytides dioxippus -> Neographium dioxippus
....Eurytides dioxippus lacandones -> Neographium dioxippus lacandones
..Eurytides marcellus -> Neographium marcellus
..Eurytides zonaria -> Neographium zonaria
I've been unable to find where this taxonomy came from, and just emailed Nick Grishin to ask him about it. But I guess there's a good reason for it. Don't know if you want to wait until we hear from Nick.
happy to wait
Apparently (according to Nick), he followed Mohn for Neographium, but molecular data (by the sound of it) does not support this taxonomy, and many species will likely be moved back soon into Eurytides. So, I think best to leave everything where it is at the moment.
Butterflies of America has it as Eurytides protesilaus http://butterfliesofamerica.com/t/Eurytides_protesilaus_a.htm
I am seeing it both ways in other places. Is there a recent treatment that resolved this?