Flag for Taxon: Calosoma auropunctatum
| Flagger | Content Author | Content | Reason | Flag Created | Resolved by | Resolution |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| marina_gorbunova | cmcheatle | Calosoma auropunctatum |
Seems to be a synonym of https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/569546-Calosoma-maderae |
Apr. 4, 2020 20:53:36 +0000 | borisb |
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Close it, it was a mistake with added/deleted names.
I've been browsing. I think that your proposed synonymy may just be right.
Look here:
►http://www.calosomas.com/Campalita/cal_maderae.html
, and here, but you need to be a subscriber:
►http://carabidae.org/taxa/maderae-maderae-fabricius-1775
Are you sure you made just an administrative error, or was there something else that made you create this flag?
Please answer.
@melodi_96
I was adding species to a project and searching for Calosoma auropunctatum first what I got was Calosoma maderae, I'm not a beetle taxonomist, so have no idea if they are actually synonyms or were splited.
Thank you, Marina. You did stumble upon a problem, about which I am happy. I'll investigate further some time soonish.
RiAAn
Hi!
Has this been resolved now?
Did anyone check the Catalogue of Palearctic Coleoptera (Löbl & Smetana)? Of course Pal.Cat. isn't open access, and I don't even have the carabid volume here now. But it's generally an excellent reference, very widely accepted.
Sandro Bruschi's Calosoma website is also very good. This guy obviously put a lot of work in it, and his classification seems very reasonable (no excessive splitting, very nice to see that for a carabid page!).
C. auropunctatum is treated as a valid species on Biolib, Wikipedia, in Kryzhanovskij's catalogue of the Russian fauna (1995, but still useful) and on "Fauna Europaea" https://fauna-eu.org/cdm_dataportal/taxon/b96eb1fd-8460-479f-b6e8-f71c598fb123
The Polish faunistic website has it as a subspecies of maderae: https://coleoptera.ksib.pl/kfp.php?taxonid=10416&l=en&dds=par
I also came across a lengthy discussion on the Italian entomologist forum, concluding in treating it as ssp.
http://www.entomologiitaliani.net/public/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=143&t=3605
So it's clearly not an easy question to resolve! I have no strong opinions in any direction, as I don't usually work with carabids.
Any thoughts?
More recent sources treat them as distinct, including "Die Käfer Mitteleuropas".
putative ranges:
C. auropunctatum: W France - W Russia;
C. maderae: Macaronesian islands, western Mediterranean (infiltration S Switzerland), Rhodes isl., Crimea, Caucasus.
Propose to check out our observations, if told differences can be reproduced
(some "maderae" indicated in range of auropunctatum, one Caucasus foothills obs. the opposite; Ukraine? Romania? non-European parts of range?)
Just to jump onto this again - as stated above, @sandrobru who is a real Calosoma expert treats auropunctatum as junior synonym of maderae (http://www.calosomas.com/Campalita/cal_maderae.html). The same opinion is currently taken on carabidae.org but not on Wolfgang Lorenz' page carabidfauna.com (although there, the ssp. dzungaricum Gebler, 1833 is also wrongly assigned to auropunctatum).
The current catalogue of the Palaearctic Coleoptera (Löbl & Löbl 2017) lists auropunctatum as junior synonym of maderae.
The only differentiation criterion stated seem sto be the elytral surface (rougher in auropunctatum, smoother in maderae) which is hard to grasp if you do not have access to identified material and seems weak as a criterion. @sandrobru states on his page that (based on obersations of larger series from the whole range), the elytral apttern varies between specimens and populations and generally shifts towards a more coarser pattern towards the west edge of the range. The keys usually state 'otherwise exactly liky ...' for both taxa. To me, it seems this is likely variation and not a real criterion to separate species. But I am not a Calosoma expert ....
United, then.
@melodi_96
Hi Marina
Could you please furnish a reason why you think that these names are synonymous? And do you have a big, fat, hardcore reference for me to check that in?
Thanks,
Riaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan