Flag for Taxon: Genus Chelidura
| Flagger | Content Author | Content | Reason | Flag Created | Resolved by | Resolution |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| konstakal | Genus Chelidura |
genus Chelidura has undergone full revision. See Kirstova et al. 2020 (https://brill.com/view/journals/ise/aop/article-10.1163-1876312X-bja10004/article-10.1163-1876312X-bja10004.xml) |
Nov. 1, 2020 18:25:12 +0000 | malacoderm |
All updated according to Kirstova 2020 / Dermaptera species file |
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Regarding the genus Chelidura the following species should be included:
Chlidura semenovi, C. specifica, C. carpathica, C. pyrenaica, C. redux, C. euxina, C. russica, C. tibetana, C. transsilvanica and C. farkaci.
I corresponded via email with Heidi Hopkins @ Dermaptera Species Files and she writes: "This paper is still only an "advance article" and still not in Zoological Record. I am trying to obtain it, but if anyone you know has the pdf please ask them to send it to my attention via the link on the DSF Home page"
@konstakal would you be able to do that?
thanks
According to Dermaptera Species File, we need to swap away these species
Chelidura acanthopygia
Chelidura apfelbecki
Chelidura bolivari
Chelidura guentheri
Chelidura mutica
and replace them with Chelidurella species
http://dermaptera.speciesfile.org/Common/basic/Taxa.aspx?TaxonNameID=1179985
anyone not in favor of following the reference, if not then I'll close this since its clear what needs to be done
That should be done! It's outdated to see Chelidura guentheri and Chelidura acanthopygia, since it's Chelidurella acanthopygia - most other websites already changed that.
I also flagged missing species for curation, but they didn't occur yet:
Mesochelidura occidentalis (e.g. determined by international expert Danilo Matzke here: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/138786103)
Chelidura arverna (is an own species from the Central Massif in France, e.g. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/412125)
note to the previous post: Chelidura apfelbecki -> Mesochelidura apfelbecki
according to dermaptera species file which is the source for iNaturalist (http://dermaptera.speciesfile.org/Common/basic/Taxa.aspx?TaxonNameID=1181216)
Could this whole revision please be changed soon @loarie ? I'd appreciate it very much!
Thank you and kind regards,
Stephan
Ok, I came here from the other flag (the one relating to Mesochelidura, which I have closed now).
So, Mesochelidura apfelbecki and bolivari are now dealt with.
Do we have a specialist for Dermaptera here who is a curator?
I don't mind doing the changes (taxon swaps, new taxa) related to Kirstova et al., 2020 and Chelidurella. Thez are now all accepted by "Dermaptera species file"
http://dermaptera.speciesfile.org/Common/basic/Taxa.aspx?TaxonNameID=1181216
So, if nobody is against it, I can change Chelidura acanthopygia into Chelidurella etc.
But I am a coleopterist and have no taxonomic expertise on Dermaptera, so I'm wondering whether anybody with more specialist knowledge has any opinions on this situation.
Also, would it make sense to generally accept "Dermaptera species file" as the "taxonomic authority" for this group ?
I said everything regarding the changes, for dermaptera species file I think it's okay - I prefer primary papers, but they don't seem to be wished here (which is weird since they're the source for dermaptera species file).
I wanted to tag a few more people, so they can see the discussion:
1) @danilo-matzke expert for worldwide Dermaptera taxonomy and ecology
2) @szucsich curator and specialist for european Dermaptera
3) @konstakal curator and seems to be specialised in european and central asian Dermaptera
4) @fuerchtegott very active in determining central and northern european Dermaptera
I would follow Kirstova et al. 2020 here, since it is consolidated. Actually my central expertise is Diptera, but I recently published the Austrian checklist of Dermaptera in a contribution on the first Austrian record of Forficula smyrnensis (mainly because nobody else did before and I want information to go public)
All the best
Nikola
Ok, it's all done. I've updated eall Chelidura and Chelidulla according to Dermaptera species file. I will close this flag now (hope that's ok). If there are mistakes or more things to update, please create another flag.
According to the same source the species below should be added:
Chelidurella caprai, C. fontanai, C. poggii, C. vignai, C. galvagnii sp. nov. and C. pseudovignai sp. nov.