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tonyrebelo Giant African Millipede (Spirostreptus gigas)

Archispirostreptus gigas according to Millibase

Apr. 26, 2021 17:18:49 +0000 kitty12

Swap done

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But iNat seems to have Archispirostreptus gigas as a synonym of Spirostreptus gigas ??

Posted by tonyrebelo about 3 years ago
Posted by tonyrebelo about 3 years ago

I drafted swap that probably should be, but can't be, deleted until after the Bioblitz freeze. There is currently a deviation for this species, but no source for the deviation. @loarie

Posted by kitty12 about 3 years ago

You added Archispirostreptus gigas - I thought that we had to desist until after the freeze?
OK: we can commit it afterwards.
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/91845
Cool: There are a whole lot of observations that can now be committed from generic level to this species.

Posted by tonyrebelo about 3 years ago

You can create taxa, just not commit (or apparently, delete) swaps during the freeze.
The problem with the swap - which I don't want committed - is that the Archispirostreptus gigas already existed: https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/1238108-Archispirostreptus-gigas, and the one that I accidentally added is surplus to purpose.

Posted by kitty12 about 3 years ago

I dont see any pre-existing taxa
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/search?is_active=any&q=Archispirostreptus+gigas&utf8=%E2%9C%93
Just the one you created.
Since you created it I reviewed the group, and identified a whole lot of candidates, which it turns out have been incorrectly identified in the past, as African Giant Millipede Archispirostreptus gigas instead of African Giant Millipede Spirostreptus spp. - part of the confusion of common names, and only having a few instances of the common name listed on iNaturalist - so that most people are unaware that the name is used for many species.
I see Doratogonus is also known as Giant Millipedes in South Africa, so there is even more confusion ...
Unfortunately, ID of many Spirostreptidae requires dissection.
So we might even have to retreat to Family level, even for these giants.

Posted by tonyrebelo about 3 years ago

@loarie - what is the rationale for the deviation. Why only these two species and not all of the genus Archispirostreptus ?
I also dont see any flags or explanations for why this deviation was done. Is it discussed anywhere? Should deviations not be justified rather than merely posted?

Posted by tonyrebelo about 3 years ago

Ah, I wasn't expecting it to have so many observations so soon. In any event, until the deviation is explained, should probably not commit it.

Posted by kitty12 about 3 years ago

Hmm - not sure. Sorry for not documenting that. I added a link to this discussion from the deviation https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_framework_relationships/429865
I think its safe to assume no good reason to deviate and would be great to get in line with Millibase. Lets resolve this deviation once the content freeze is over

Posted by loarie about 3 years ago

In that case, let the swapping begin! After the freeze, of course.

Posted by kitty12 about 3 years ago

All the taxon relationships for existing Archispirostreptus taxa have been remapped.

Posted by kitty12 almost 3 years ago

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