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joe_fish loarie Blue Xenia (Genus Sansibia)

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Mar. 22, 2022 11:59:36 +0000 loarie

split

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Posted by joe_fish about 2 years ago

@loarie help?

Posted by joe_fish about 2 years ago

@joe_fish - we've just made the shift from Fishbase to Cataolog of Fishes as our external fish reference which was alot of work.
Those taxa aren't in Catalog of Fishes. can you:
1) Contact Richard van der Laan (richard.vanderlaan80 at gmail dot com) to see if/when they're planning on adding those taxa to Catalog of Fishes. Once they get added there they will be automatically added here
2) if they're not going add them at all or in a timely manner you can propose a deviation here but we'll need to know how those taxa map to the tree of Fishes sensu Catalog of Fishes. e.g. was some taxa split if so what and how do we set up the split, or are they new species that don't impact any other nodes on the tree etc.

thanks

Posted by loarie about 2 years ago

this is a coral, not a fish

Posted by joe_fish about 2 years ago

whoops - ignore everything I said - sorry - will add

Posted by loarie about 2 years ago

I added those species,
but can you describe the split a bit,

so genus Latissimia was split off from genus Sansibia?
Which species were reshuffled from Latissimia to Sansibia
or otherwise how do
Sansibia boquetei, Sansibia flava, Sansibia formosana, Sansibia lineata
relate to
Latissimia ningalooensis & Latissimia opalia ?

Posted by loarie about 2 years ago

these are all new species, but they had been confused with Sansibia... so there are a bunch of observations whose identifications need to be updated.

all of the Australian observations refer to L. opalia

Posted by joe_fish about 2 years ago

two options:
1) just manually ID obs which will take a few people to out-vote Sansibia and kick it over to Latissimia opalia
2) split Sansibia into Sansibia and Latissimia. This will kick existing IDs of Sansibia back to Xeniidae and then a single ID of Latissimia opalia will roll it forward. If you can define the relative ranges of Sansibia and Latissimi with atlases and there's areas of no overlap then the split will replace existing IDs of Sansibia with Sansibia or Latissimi (rather than Xeniidae) which would be nice.

Which do you prefer? If 2 can you inform the atlases?

Posted by loarie about 2 years ago

All of the African observations are Sansibia flava.

All of the Australian observations are Latissimia opalia.

All of the Singaporean observations are Latissimia ningalooensis.

If you can do this with atlases, such that I don't have to go through and reidentify all these dozens of observations, that would spark joy.

Posted by joe_fish about 2 years ago

ok I split the genus https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/110193
you'll have to ID them to species

Posted by loarie about 2 years ago

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