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profinite Suillus albidipes

subsumed by S. granulatus

Jan. 30, 2023 08:04:14 +0000 cooperj

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Synonymized with S. granulatus in 1984:

https://doi.org/10.2307/3793324

Posted by profinite over 1 year ago

probably worth reading the comments here ...
https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/OestZPilz_22_0211-0278.pdf
Doesn't that imply that the matter is not settled ... in a modern phylogenetics-based sense.

Posted by cooperj over 1 year ago

Correct me if wrong, but I believe that matter was settled. Nguyen et al (2016) found the North American "S. granulatus" was in another clade and proposed a different name:

https://cbs.umn.edu/sites/cbs.umn.edu/files/public/downloads/Nguyenetal2016c.pdf

This leaves S. albidipes as a subsumed synonym.

Posted by profinite over 1 year ago

Suillus albidipes was described by Peck, and in association with Pinus strobus. It will be a North American indigenous taxon and therefore unlikley (but not impossible) to be the same as the modern concept of S. granulatus sensu stricto. That is implied under the comments on S. granulatus by Klofac when discussing Palm's description of S. neoalbidipes. Palm, back in 1984, considered the name S. albidipes had been widely misapplied (based on Singer & Smith I assume), and that might be true. However Palm's 1984 assertion that S. albidipes = S. granulatus cannot be endorsed without modern phylogenetic support, and that would seem unlikley. Indeed the Nguyen paper supports the view that North American taxa are different. It is a pity Nguyen et al did not say anything about Peck's taxon. So, in my opinion, the current status of the name S. albidipes remains uncertain. There are no iNat records, and I would simply make the name inactive, rather than creating an unproven and unlikely synonymy with S. granulatus.

Posted by cooperj over 1 year ago

Thanks Jerry, sure would defer to that opinion. Intention was just to simplify the species list for users, rather than promote a particular synonym.

Posted by profinite over 1 year ago

I deactivated it.

There has been a strong tendency on iNat to add names simply because they appear on some list, and not because they are names in current use. That is a pity.

Posted by cooperj over 1 year ago

Thanks! Got a chance to read your post about curation too btw, surprising how complex that is. Makes sense how the pre-DNA synonyms are trending to be spurious.

Posted by profinite over 1 year ago

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