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kitty12 whalebone tree (Streblus brunonianus)

= Paratrophis pendulina

Jul. 21, 2023 02:54:01 +0000 t_e_d

Done.

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I wonder if POWO should be contacted regarding this taxon and if it should be reviewed. From the pre-print version of the paper naming P. pendulina (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.08.030452v3) is:

"Although the types of Morus pendulina, Morus brunoniana, Pseudomorus sandwicensis, and Pseudomorus brunoniana var. obtusa [...] we therefore provisionally treat them all as one widespread and variable species." p. 36-37 (bold mine)

I've only read the pre-print version of the paper

APC/APNI has no entry for Paratrophis pendulina however seems to accept both Streblus pendulinus (Endl.) F.Muell. and Streblus brunonianus (Endl.) F.Muell.

Posted by craig-r 10 months ago

Ah, so the weird thing is POWO is citing Berg, C.C., Corner, E.J.H. & Jarrett, F.M. (2006). Flora Malesiana 17(1): 1-154. Noordhoff-Kolff N.V., Djakarta. as its source for the synonymy with Streblus pendulinus. It then sources accepting "Paratrophis pendulina" to "Towards a checklist of the vascular flora of Vanuatu." Paratrophis pendulina is a homotypic synonym of Streblus pendulinus so the synonymy is transitive I guess. So I guess technically they aren't citing to that statement that calls them "provisionally" synonymous.

Posted by wildskyflower 10 months ago

@wildskyflower that's correct: POWO are citing the checklist paper and I was talking about the source for the name itself (the Gardner in Paratrophis pendulina (Endl.) E.M.Gardner)*, which I assume is the checklist's source but I'm not sure. Sorry for any confusion

Edit: and cited by POWO just below the title (First published in Taxon 70: 975 (2021)) but not in their publications list

Posted by craig-r 10 months ago

I've just read Plunket et al. "Towards a checklist of the Vascular Flora of Vanuatu," Candollea, 77(1), 105-118 and cannot see Paratrophis pendulina (or any Paratrophis species) mentioned at all, nor any reference to Gardner et al.'s paper so I'm confused

Posted by craig-r 10 months ago

I guess maybe email POWO? Its bi@kew.org

Posted by wildskyflower 10 months ago

Ok, POWO told me that in the actual paper published in Taxon (not the pre-print version) that I don't have access to they're explicitly synonymised

Posted by craig-r 10 months ago

Well, that is an answer at least, unsatisfying though it may be...

Posted by wildskyflower 10 months ago

Are we ok to do the swap, then?

Posted by kitty12 10 months ago

I guess we'll have to swap since we're following POWO and not the Australian Plant Census and I can't think of any strong arguments to deviate

Posted by craig-r 10 months ago

No objection from me

Posted by wildskyflower 10 months ago

I'm not sure how to deal with the conservation status when the swap goes ahead so have opened an additional flag https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/627096

Posted by craig-r 10 months ago
Posted by t_e_d 3 months ago

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