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felix-insects Albany pitcher plant (Cephalotus follicularis)

Geoprivacy should be defult obscured.

Dec. 24, 2023 12:25:37 +0000 thebeachcomber

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This species is threatened in the wild by poaching ,please reset the geoprivacy to obscured.

@thilokrueger
@hugo_innes

Posted by felix-insects 5 months ago

@felix-insects Thanks for noticing this! I just reversed this change so that the default geoprivacy of this taxon is obscured again.

I certainly agree Cephalotus should be obscured despite the fact it is not listed on the WA Priority list. It is listed as VU in IUCN though and, in my opinion, it may also make sense to list it as a species of special conservation concern (CD) under the WA BCAct 2016. It is one of the main indicator species of the federally-threatened ecological community "Empodisma peatlands of southwestern Australia".

@thebeachcomber

Posted by thilokrueger 5 months ago

as an explanation of the change I made: https://www.inaturalist.org/journal/thebeachcomber/87783-deobscuring-australian-species-iucn-statuses

is there a particular reason it's not on the WA sensitive list? In my experience WA is hugely conservative with the species they designate as location sensitive (as in, they always seem to err on the side of caution, sometimes perhaps too far imo), so the fact that this species is not on the list, but putatively should be, is extremely surprising to me. Is this an error on the department's part? (I don't doubt it should be obscured if that's what the both of you say, I'm just trying to figure out why the official WA list doesn't concur)

Posted by thebeachcomber 5 months ago

@thebeachcomber Thanks for the explanation, that is a very interesting post and I fully agree with most of your points.

However, the WA sensitive list for carnivorous plants is unfortunately quite the opposite of "conservative". Until very recently, not a single species was listed as Threatened and a couple of species have probably become extinct in the wild before even being included on the Priority list. Apparently, neither the carnivorous plant expert Allen Lowrie nor anyone at the Department have had the time to do this listing work. I have only recently succeeded in getting some of the most critically endangered species at least included in the Priority list, i.e., those that are only known from a single location immediately threatened by urban expansion or mining/construction.

The only reason Cephalotus is not on the WA sensitive list is because no one has so far done the hard work of getting it nominated as Threatened. The survey effort required for such a Threatened nomination would probably require several years given the large distribution area and remote/hard to reach populations. The only way it could more easily be listed is as a Priority 4a or CD species, but even that would require a lot of work given that detailed reports of all known populations would have to be compiled. Maybe we can make an exception here and retain the default iNat geoprivacy of Cephalotus as obscured until it is listed on the WA Priority list?

Cephalotus is of course not only threatened by poaching. Inappropriate fire regimes and climate change probably pose far greater threats (see Conservation Advice for the Empodisma peatlands of southwestern Australia).

There is a similar situation with Drosera bulbigena which is also currently only listed on IUCN and not on the WA Priority list. However, I have almost completed my Priority nomination for that species and I expect it will be listed as Priority 2 or 3 in the coming months.

Posted by thilokrueger 5 months ago

thanks Thilo, this is super useful. I've sent you a DM too

Posted by thebeachcomber 5 months ago

perhaps WA would be better served with a more similar system to Queensland? They seem to have a setup where species (or even higher level taxa) can be designated as sensitive without necessarily needing to be formally listed as threatened

Posted by thebeachcomber 5 months ago

I think sensitive and threatened listings should be de-coupled. There are many species listed as threatened that would actually benefit from having their locations more widely known, and you provide a great example in your journal post. There are also others which don't quite meet the threatened criteria (yet) but nevertheless should be designated as sensitive. Unfortunately, this de-coupling would quite possibly even further increase the workload of the conservation department staff so it is unlikely to happen in the near term.

Posted by thilokrueger 4 months ago

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