Catocala larvae from Eastern North America. There are approximately 80 named species in Eastern North America. Some do not have any reference photos for caterpillars (larvae). Available larval photos are posted with the individual species listed under Larva (caterpillars).
Notes for much information on this page summarized from Owlet Caterpillars of Eastern North America p. 212-213.
For a better chance at having a Catocala larva identified take photos of head (front) view, top view of entire larva, dorsal view, ventral view. Also note host plant/tree as these caterpillars have specialized diets.
Detailed information about each species is available by clicking on name which links to iNaturalist page with distribution maps, seasonality charts, food plants, and much more.
Underwing Moths (Catocala) & Larvae - A companion guide for iNaturalists
https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/
NOTE - Since this post was initially started just for Catocala from Eastern North America, not all are listed in the following links. Refer to A companion guide for iNaturalists for other Catocala not listed below.
Catocala amestris - Amorpha fruticosa, Amorpha canescens
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/amestris
Catocala abbreviatella - Amorpha canescens
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/abbreviatella
Catocala illecta - Honey locust
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/illecta
Catocala innubens - Honey locust
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/innubens
Catocala minuta - Honey locust, including water locust
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/minuta
Catocala nuptialis - Amorpha species, esp. Amorpha fruticosa
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/nuptialis
Catocala whitneyi - Amorpha canescens
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/whitneyi
Catocala antinympha - Sweet fern and sweet gale
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/antinympha
Catocala badia - Bayberry (Morella (=Myrica) pennsylvanica)
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/badia
Catocala badia coelebs - Myrica gale (usually)
Catocala muliercula - Wax myrtle, Bayberry
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/muliercula
Catocala epione
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/epione
Catocala flebilis
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/flebilis
Catocala neogama
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/neogama
Catocala obscura - Shagbark hickory
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/obscura
Catocala palaeogama
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/palaeogama
Catocala serena - Shagbark hickory
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/serena
Catocala vidua
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/vidua
Catocala agrippina (pecan, water pecan, and perhaps other Apocarya hickories)
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/agrippina
Catocala angusi - shagbark hickory
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/angusi
Catocala atocala (nutmeg hickory)
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/atocala
Catocala consors (hickory, at least black and scrub; sand hickory likely)
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/consors
Catocala dejecta (Carya hickories)
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/dejecta
Catocala insolabilis - (hickory, especially pignut in Florida)
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/insolabilis
Catocala habilis - shagbark hickory
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/habilis
Catocala judith - shagbark hickory
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/judith
Catocala lacrymosa - Carya hickories
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/lacrymosa
Catocala luctuosa -
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/luctuosa
Catocala maestosa - Pecan, other section Apocarya hickories, and walnut
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/maestosa
Catocala piatrix - Mostly black walnut, pecan and other section Apocarya hickories
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/piatrix
Catocala nebulosa - Bitternut hickory (Carya cordiformis)
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/nebulosa
Catocala residua - Shagbark hickory
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/residua
Catocala retecta - Shagbark and other section Carya hickories
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/retecta
Catocala robinsonii - Shagbark and perhaps shellbark hickories
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/robinsonii
Catocala sappho - Pignut and probably other section Carya hickories
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/sappho
Catocala subnata - Bitternut hickory
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/subnata
Catocala ulalume - Hickory
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/ulalume
Catocala vidua - Hickory, pecan, walnut (Juglandaceae); other hosts include oak, willow, and Black Locust (Robinia pseudoacacia)
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/vidua
Catocala cara - Willow, including nonnative species like weeping willow (Salix babylonica); especially black willow (S. nigra)
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/cara
Catocala carissima - Treasured Underwing - Willow and poplar
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/carissima
Catocala concumbens - Willow and poplar
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/concumbens
Catocala relicta - Aspen and other poplars, also willow
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/relicta
Catocala amatrix - Poplar (including cottonwoods and Lombardy), perhaps willows
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/amatrix
Catocala briseis - Willow and probably poplar
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/briseis
Catocala junctura - Willow and poplar
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/junctura
Catocala marmorata - Principally swamp cottonwood (Populus heterophylla) but eastern cottonwood and willow suspected
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/marmorata
Catocala meskei - Primarily poplars, mostly cottonwoods, including Lombardy in towns
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/meskei
Catocala parta - Poplar and willow
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/parta
Catocala semirelicta - Poplar, especially balsam poplar eastward
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/semirelicta
Catocala unijuga - Poplar, especially quaking aspen
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/unijuga
Catocala luciana - Poplar, willow
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/luciana
Catocala carissima - sister species of the Darling Underwing - Willows
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/carissima
Complex Catocala amica Girlfriend and Little Lined Underwings
Catocala amica
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/amica
Catocala coccinata
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/coccinata
Catocala ilia
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/ilia
Catocala connubialis
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/connubialis
Catocala delilah
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/delilah
Catocala herodias
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/herodias
Catocala lineella
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/lineella
Catocala micronympha
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/micronympha
Catocala similis
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/similis
Catocala umbrosa Associated with Scrub oak in Northeast per Owlet Caterpillars of Eastern North America p. 130 - sister species to Catocala Ilia - Larvae may not always be separable
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/umbrosa
Ilia and Umber Underwings Complex
Catocala andromedae - also azalea
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/andromedae
Catocala gracilis
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/gracilis
Catocala sordida
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/sordida
Catocala louiseae
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/louiseae
Catocala crataegi
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/crataegi
Catocala mira
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/mira
Catocala ultronia - principally cherry and plum but also reported from apple and hawthorn
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/ultronia
Catocala clintonii - apple, cherry, hawthorn and plum
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/clintonii
Catocala dulciola - hawthorn
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/dulciola
Catocala grynea - apple, crabapple, plum and related plants including European mountain ash
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/grynea
Catocala praeclara - chokeberry and serviceberry, also hawthorn
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/praeclara
Catocala alabamae - hawthorn
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/alabamae
Catocala blandula - apple, crabapple, and hawthorn
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/blandula
Catocala grisatra - hawthorn, especially yellowleaf hawthorn
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/grisatra
Catocala lincolnana - hawthorns,especially parsley hawthorn
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/lincolnana
Catocala miranda - hawthorn
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/miranda
Catocala orba - parsley hawthorn
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/orba
Catocala cerogama
-- https://images.peabody.yale.edu/catinat/cerogama
Catocala abbreviatella - Abbreviated Underwing
Catocala abbreviatella Larvae (RG)
Catocala agrippina - Agrippina Underwing
Catocala agrippina Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/135462/bgimage
Catocala amatrix - The Sweetheart
Catocala amatrix Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/29697/bgimage
Catocala amestris - Three-staff Underwing
Catocala amestris - Larvae (RG)
Larvae (reared)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/198935/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8844
Catocala amica - Girlfriend Underwing
Catocala amica - Larvae (RG)
Larvae (reared)
Complex Catocala amica (amica/lineella) - Girlfriend and Little Lined Underwings
Complex Catocala amica Larvae (RG)
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/166312345
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233002445
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/221140413
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/3665086
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/13120586
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/13212839
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82474712
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/121648619
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/120413535
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/85560166
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/81134011
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/13653190
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/80412392
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/117459303
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219103954
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/158961264
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/206092737
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/319147
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/48944462
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/124995425
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/194579632
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/22864068
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/23210595
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/160021177
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/74484927
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/319147
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82701471
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82548708
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/217636999
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/216968701
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/167010224
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/80772725
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82899953
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/121648619
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/165240141
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82213744
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/54355980
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/219732277
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/268654416
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82457668
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/32279/bgimage
Catocala andromedae - Gloomy Underwing
Catocala andromedae Larvae (RG)
Catocala antinympha - Sweetfern Underwing Moth
Catocala antinympha Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/39850/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8775
Catocala badia - Bay Underwing
Catocala badia Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/43326/bgimage
Catocala blandula - Charming Underwing
Catocala blandula Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/40021/bgimage
Catocala briseis - Briseis Underwing
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8817
Catocala cara - Darling Underwing
Catocala cara Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/45120/bgimage
Catocala carissima - Carissima Underwing
Catocala carissima Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/45287/bgimage
Catocala cerogama - Yellow-banded Underwing
Catocala cerogama Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/29502/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8802
Catocala clintoni - Clinton's Underwing
Catocala clintoni Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/543178/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8872
Catocala coccinata - Scarlet Underwing
Catocala coccinata Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/73522/bgimage
Catocala concumbens - Pink Underwing
Catocala concumbens Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/797179/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8833
Catocala connubialis - Connubial Underwing
Catocala connubialis Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/24234/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8877
Catocala crataegi - Hawthorn Underwing
Catocala crataegi Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/25793/bgimage
Catocala dejecta - Dejected Underwing
Catocala dejecta Larvae (RG) (none so far)
Catocala delilah - Delilah Underwing
Catocala delilahLarvae (RG) (none so far)
Catocala dulciola - Sweet Underwing
Catocala Dulciola Larvae (RG) (none so far)
Catocala epione - Epione Underwing
Catocala epione Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/470/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8773
Catocala flebilis - Mourning Underwing
Catocala flebilis Larvae (RG)
Catocala grynea Woody Underwing
Catocala grynea Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/26745/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8864
Catocala habilis - Habilis Underwing
Catocala habilis Larvae
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8778
Catocala herodius - Herodius Underwing
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8850
Catocala illecta - Magdalen Underwing
Catocala illecta Larvae (RG)
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8840
Catocala ilia Larvae (RG)
http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8801
Catocala Ilia-umbrosa
Ilia and Umber Underwings
Complex Catocala ilia-complex Notes regarding this complex
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/1208960/bgimage
Catocala innubens - Betrothed
Catocala innubens Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/45175/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8770
Catocala insolabilis - Inconsolable Underwing
Catocala insolabilis Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/657366
Catocala judith - Judith's Underwing
Catocala judith Larvae (RG)
Catocala lacrymosa - Tearful Underwing
Catocala lacrymosa
Catocala lineella - Little-lined Underwing
Catocala lineella Larvae (RG)
(maybe) - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/41389954
Catocala luciana - Luciana Underwing Moth
Nebraska Lepidoptera - https://nebraskalepidoptera.com/8808-luciana/
Catocala maestosa
Catocala maestosa - Larvae look similar to Catocala neogama - ventral view is one of the features that helps separate the two species
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/225548910 (includes ventral view)
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/120194861 (includes ventral view)
https://bugguide.net/node/view/34547/bgimage
Either C. neogama/ maestosa
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&place_id=any&field:Species%20group=neogama%2Fmaestosa
Catocala meskei - Meske's Underwing Moth
Catocala meskei Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/31089/bgimage
Catocala micronympha - Little Nymph Underwing
Catocala micronympha Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/1797019/bgimage
Catocala minuta - Little Underwing
Catocala minuta Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/9770/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8874
Catocala mira - Wonderful Underwing
Catocala mira Larvae (RG) (to be added)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/26746/bgimage
Catocala muliercula - The Little Wife
Catocala muliercula Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/23074/bgimage
Catocala nebulosa - Clouded Underwing
Catocala nebulosa Larvae (RG)
Catocala neogama - The Bride
Catocala neogama Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/30844/bgimage
Catocala nuptialis - Married Underwing
Catocala nuptialis Larvae (RG)
Catocala obscura - Obscure Underwing
Catocala obscura Larvae (RG)
Catocala orba - Orba Underwing
Catocala orba Larvae (RG)
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8856
Catocala palaeogama - Oldwife
Catocala paleogama Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/45164/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8795
Catocala parta - Mother Underwing
Catocala parta Larvae (RG)
Catocala piatrix - Penitent Underwing
Catocala piatrix Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/12300/bgimage
Catocala relicta - White Underwing
Catocala relicta Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/6150/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8803
Catocala retecta - Yellow-Gray Underwing
Catocala retecta Larvae (RG)
Larvae (captive-reared)
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8788
Catocala robinsonii - Robinson's Underwing
Catocala robinsonii Larvae (RG)
(robinsonii or habilis - see notes) - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/228378051
Catocala sappho - Sappho Underwing
Catocala sappho Larvae (RG)
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/76800479
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/115908609
Catocala semirelicta - Semirelict Underwing
Catocala semirelicta
(semirelicta or briseis) - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/52383808
Catocala serena - Serene Underwing
Catocala serena Larvae (RG)
Larvae (captive) (to view - change filters to "captive" and remove "verifiable")
Catocala similis - Similar Underwing
Catocala Similis Larvae (RG)
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8873
Catocala sordida - Sordid Underwing
Catocala sordida Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/135464/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8846
Catocala subnata - Youthful Underwing
Catocala subnata Larvae (RG)
Catocala ulalume
Catocala ulalume Larvae (RG)
Catocala ultronia - Ultronia Underwing
Catocala ultronia Larvae (RG)
Larvae (reared)
Larvae (reared)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/11871/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8857
Catocala umbrosa - Umber Underwing
Catocala Umbrosa Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/166871/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8801.1
Catocala umbrosa or Catocala ilia Why it is difficult to tell the difference.
Catocala unijuga - Once-married Underwing
Catocala unijuga Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/31037/bgimage
MPG - http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=8805
Catocala vidua - Widow Underwing
Catocala vidua Larvae (RG)
BugGuide - https://bugguide.net/node/view/9240/bgimage
Catocala whitneyi - Whitney's Underwing
Catocala whitneyi Larvae (RG)
Larvae
Species group - amorpha
Species group - ericaceae
Species group - rosaceae
Species group - hickory
Species group - oak
(missing SG addition) - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/202489141
Species group - poplar/willow
Species group - agrippina/atocala
Species group - agrippina/lacrymosa
Species group - aholibah/verrilliana
Species group - amatrix/cara/carissima
Species group - amatrix/parta
Species group - andromedae/gracilis
Species group - andromedae/louiseae
Species group - angusi/habilis
Species group - angusi/robinsonii
Species group - antinympha/badia
Species group - badia/muliercula
Species group - briseis/cara
Species group - briseis/concumbens
Species group - cara/carissima
(temporary holding while waiting for Curator to add Species group)
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/272430628 (cara/carissima)
Species group - cara/concumbens
Species group - connubialis/micronympha
Species group - consors/epione
Species group - connubialis/delilah
Species group - connubialis/lineella
Species group - delilah/desdemona
Species group - epione/piatrix
Species group - grotiana/semirelicta
Species group - grynea/mira
Species group - grynea/praeclara
Species group - grynea/ultronia
Species group - habilis/robinsonii
Species group - judith/serena
Species group - lacrymosa/paleogama
Species group - luctuosa/retecta
Species group - meskei
Species group - meskei/semirelicta
Species group - micronympha/similis
Species group - micronympha/verrilliana
Species group - minuta/similis
Species group - miranda/ultronia
Species group - muliercula/piatrix
Species group - nebulosa/subnata
Species group - neogama/maestosa
Species group - obscura/residua
Species group - retecta/vidua
Species group - ulalume/vidua
Observation group:
287206851 white-head obs group
-- https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/280574851 ( also in - Dark morph Catocala relicta)
Observation group:
172051579 Dark morph Catocala relicta
Species group - TBR-Catocala To be Reviewed-Late Additions
Species group - reared
Larvae photos on MPG (26 species)
Larvae photos on BugGuide Starting with unsorted and then with sorted
Information link - 101 - 110 species of Catocala in North America north of Mexico.
Many references and photos for Catocala larvae in Owlet Caterpillars of Eastern North America pp.97-142
Underwing Moths of Canada and the United States
Nebraska Moth Lists - Catocala - https://nebraskalepidoptera.com/nebraska-moths-list/#Catocala
Catocala larvae Filtered search - change filters to view specific states, countries, etc.
Catocala larvae 16 species represented. To view individual species requires using filters.
Comparison of C. whitneyi, C. abbreviatella, and C. amestris on Amorpha canescens
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https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/278115731
Separating neogama/maestosa - what to look for
(The link below is for my use -- refers to this entire page and includes the coding for pasting the link for the entire page when in Edit mode.)
Catocala Larvae (RG)
Work in progress...
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Maybe it would be worth adding links to the observations in the species groups we are adding, and also a link of the Ventral View field observations? Not sure if that fits in with your purpose for this page. Awesome that you are collecting all this information in one spot. Thank you!!
Sounds like a good idea about the ventral views. I think for now I'll keep all the Catocala info on one page but if this starts getting too long, I'll probably break the links down into smaller sections for ease of making single links for posting.
Made a separate page for Catocala maestosa but will also leave the info on this page for now.
https://www.inaturalist.org/journal/woolcarderbee/98341-catocala-maestosa
Will have to review my html coding as some things aren't working as planned.
So I don't have to look for this link when needed
https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/useful-html-tags-for-inaturalist-comments-and-other-text-wiki/6198
Cool! Are you adding links to other species as you have time? There are a variety of other species that could be added with RG photos as well. Let me know if you want a list of ones I think would be good to start with.
Yes. Let me know which ones should have priority and I'll add them as I have time.
nuptialis, abbreviatella, whitneyi, amestris should all be good (I have a lot of reared examples of abbreviatella and amestris to add at some point if that impacts what you add).
Some that I have images and reared images of but haven't gone through the pool of other images yet: serena, amica (amica/lineella), obscura, judith, insolabilis, habilis, antinympha, minuta, meskei, micronympha
Suggested species have been added.
I wonder if there is a way to collect a link of reared examples here under the RG link for each species? I don't know the best way to do that, if we found a way it would probably add a lot of good photos that would augment the RG observations, and lots of the reared photos (like almost all of mine) won't show up in the RG link if they have been marked captive... Not sure the best way to filter for that, because if you only do the 'captive' filter then you miss any observation the observer took in the development series initially when the larva/organism was still wild. I guess you could filter by that one Reared Insect Nymphs/Larva project? But that would mean the observer would have had to add their observations to that project. Hmmm...
I have been adding observations of reared caterpillars and other insects as I come across them. Anyone can add examples of anything in the taxon Pterygota as long as there is either a link to the adult or the adult has been included along with the immature egg, larvae, and/or pupa.
So far this is what shows up for Catocala on
Reared or bred insect larvae-nymphs
As long as one of the photos in your group is not marked "Casual", the entire series can viewed if one knows to click on the Observation group link.
There are some other links I would like to add. Specifically some which show examples of what to photograph for best chances of getting an ID. Ex., Top, side, venter, head, host plant if available or at least a mention of what was nearby. Any other thoughts?
For head, I would make it clear that we are wanting to see the whole head face-on to get the lower portions of the head (which are often not visible from above). Otherwise that sounds good. Will think about anything else and let you know.
Hey! Is there a place on here where we could store the species groups we are using for easy reference? Then we could make sure we're being consistent when entering one. We could maybe put them by foodplant category (since that is one of the species groups anyways)? Just don't want to enter something as neogama/maestosa and another one as maestosa/neogama etc.
What I recall us using so far:
hickory
neogama/maestosa
oak
micronympha/similis
poplar/willow
meskei/junctura
rosaceae
ericaceae
amorpha
whitneyi/abbreviatella
What I can do is list the plants/trees and then the species. "Owlet Caterpillars..." has the common foodplants listed for each species. I'll set up a sample listing to see if that works. Is that what you mean?
I guess I meant that when we are adding the 'species group field' for some of these, it would be helpful to have a reference of the specific order/names we are entering into that field so that it stays consistent over many larvae. For example, so that we continue to add all species in one group as neogama/maestosa rather than accidentally typing maestosa/neogama in reverse order (or poplar/willow rather than willow/poplar) for some observations. Also, if we had a record of existing species groups, if somebody wanted to go back and review a species group it would be easy to see the ones that they could search for. Does that clarify at all?
This is looking great! Thanks for all your work here!
Looking forward to this year's postings of Catocala caterpillars. Probably need to check the links to see if more have reached RG.
Just checked - Several Catocala ilia or Complex Catocala ilia-complex larva have now been posted for this year.
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