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kitty12 Hairy Birdsfoot Trefoil (Lotus suaveolens)

= Lotus hispidus

Jul. 14, 2020 13:21:44 +0000 kitty12

Done

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bumping this

Posted by thebeachcomber over 3 years ago

@mark_smale @chrise Do either of you have any insight on this? The majority of observations are from New Zealand, but it seems to be introduced to these locations. Is there a good reason to keep this name?

Posted by kitty12 over 3 years ago

Swap drafted but not committed.

Posted by kitty12 over 3 years ago

Sorry, can't help with this one.

Posted by mark_smale over 3 years ago

There seem to be three names in use for this taxon: Lotus suaveolens, L. subbiflorus and L. hispidulus. I note that Plants of the World Online uses L. hispidulus but APNI uses L. subbiflorus. There is also a suggestion that L. hispidulus is "nomen nudum".
NBN Atlas uses L. subbiflorus. In Flora of NZ v.4 there is the comment “doubt remains on the correct application of the available names”.

I think I would go with L. subbiflorus but would like to find some clear reasons.
Chris

Posted by chrise over 3 years ago

See also existing flag on L. subbiflorus https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/497119

Posted by kitty12 over 3 years ago

now, POWO says L. suaveolens is a synonym of L. subbiflorus: http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/results?q=Lotus%20suaveolens

And that L. hispidus = L. palustris and L. parviflorus: http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/results?q=Lotus%20hispidus

So based on this, the drafted swap at https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/83335 would have to be edited to be suaveolens --> subbiflorus

(which fwiw is also what some other sources say too, e.g. PlantNET for NSW)

@kitty12

Posted by thebeachcomber over 2 years ago

I've deleted the original draft swap. Let's start fresh here.

Posted by kitty12 over 2 years ago

Swap redrafted. Synonymy of L. suaveolens and L. Subbiflorus deleted from synonymy of L. hispidus. L. hispidus flagged.

Posted by kitty12 over 2 years ago

I now support L. suaveolens being replaced by L. subbiflorus. This species is introduced in NZ and I think we need to accept this change.

Posted by chrise over 2 years ago

I do not agree with the original proposal involving L. hispidus. The proposal of the "thebeachcomber" looks correct to me.

Posted by chrise over 2 years ago

Can this synonymisation go ahead? POWO has suaveolens as a synonym of subbiflorus now.

Posted by reinderw about 1 year ago

Can people take a look at the L . hispidus swap as well?

Posted by kitty12 about 1 year ago

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