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field mushrooms and allies (Family Agaricaceae) jameskm Fri, 15 Jan 2021 00:34:28 +0000

I notice that Agaric.us splits this family possibly into five, of which we recognize two. Is it worth lumping Lycoperdaceae, or splitting our concept of Agaricaceae?

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Posted by jameskm 3 months ago (Flag)
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Ah, I see the argument against lumping Lycoperdaceae is here: https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/510127

Posted by jameskm 3 months ago (Flag)
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On Mushroom Observer, I'm inclined to treat all 5 as separate, accepted families, and additionally use "Agaricaceae sensu lato" when it's not clear which family it would belong to. I would recommend that for iNat, but I don't see "sensu lato" names here, or "nom. inval." ones (indicating that seems desirable for "Lepiotaceae").

Another option would be to split off Lycoperdaceae (and Tulostomataceae/Battarraceae and/or Coprinaceae, if you want) and just accept "Agaricaceae" as quite possibly polyphyletic...

Posted by pulk 3 months ago (Flag)
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I would support following Agaric.us for the agaricaceae sensu stricto
iNat cannot implement a separate senu lato. It has a more tightly defined/nomenclaturally correct hierarchy (except 'species complex') than MO. Agaricaeae sensu lato would be within the sub-order Agaricineae. These suborders are very useful divisions within the agaricales and people should get used to using them.

Posted by cooperj 3 months ago (Flag)
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"Lepiotaceae" is listed as Verrucosporaceae in the PDF and tree. That name should be good enough.

Posted by jameskm 3 months ago (Flag)
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https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/87855 I sorted out the genera and am ready to commit the split.

Posted by jameskm 3 months ago (Flag)
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re Verrucosporaceae , I'm not sure what is wrong with Leucocopriniceae.
At least that is a name based on an accepted genus and more likely to be associated with this group than Verrucosporaceae.

Posted by cooperj 3 months ago (Flag)
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Agaric.us has Leucocoprinus in Agaricaceae s. str.

Posted by jameskm 3 months ago (Flag)
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Oh yes - now I look at the trees I suppose that is correct if you follow this way of slicing it up.

Posted by cooperj 3 months ago (Flag)
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Just so everyone is aware - this split is pretty useless for casual observers. I'm not touching or updating any of my content, as I do not have the data in my observations or in my head to determine where things should move to.

Posted by eric_hunt 3 months ago (Flag)
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Can i please have a list of all fungi name changes for 2020/2021 as i am working on creating a database with updated taxa names of Western Australian species for a project at Curtin University in Perth. There seems to be alot of changes happening at this present moment to fungi.

Posted by bonniefalconer 3 months ago (Flag)

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