Flag for Taxon: Andean Tapeti (Sylvilagus andinus)
| Flagger | Content Author | Content | Reason | Flag Created | Resolved by | Resolution |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| rjq | zebs | Andean Tapeti (Sylvilagus andinus) |
question about recent split |
Feb. 10, 2022 09:17:35 +0000 | loarie |
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Comments
I'm the one who made the taxon changes and i agree with you. Can you give any source of the distribution so i can split it? And i'm sorry i forgot to put some reminder on this.
@zebs in general, splits should only be implemented when all the necessary taxon changes are in place, so that these can all be done together. This includes splitting the parent species, which requires creating atlases for all the new species (or at least those for which there are observations), as well as raising subspecies to species level and/or creating new taxa. If in doubt, or needing further information, it's best to flag the taxon and get input from other curators first. In this specific case, things are complicated due to uncertain species limits and ranges, and there may be more splits to come within brasiliensis. IUCN provide ranges for gabbi and andinus, but they don't yet recognise the other new species, and their range map for brasiliensis is not useful. The mammal curators may be able to advise @bobby23 @jwidness
Well i already done 2 things
add the new taxa
raised the subspecies to species level
And yes, i'm in doubt when trying to split the taxa, especially when building the atlas.
I hope the mammal curator can solve this
Sorry, I have been off of iNaturalist for a bit. I will review this flag within the week.
I'm reverting these ssp elevations for now to keep things consistent
@zebs please make sure to check for deviations before making changes https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/43107/taxonomy_details
also elevating ssp almost always requires splitting the parent species which is what would need to happen here to keep things consistent. We can do that but someone needs to provide information on the relative distributions of the carved off species. My preferred way to transmit this info is for someone to annotate the Sylvilagus brasiliensis sensu lato map as I did for this snake here https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/507004 and past it in here.
Once we have that information we can make this split and remove the deviation
split
Recently subspecies andinus and gabbi were raised to species level from Sylvilagus brasiliensis https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/104207 and https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/104208. Doesn't this also need a split of the parent species, so that observations that hadn't been identified to subspecies would be assigned to the new species?