Taxonomic Swap 64951 (Committed on 2019-11-13)

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Added by rfoster on November 14, 2019 06:13 AM | Committed by rfoster on November 13, 2019
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I would like to see a source for this taxon swap.
N.spinimanum seems to be the accepted name in Europe - visible in UKSI, GBIF, Systema Dipterorum and recent research on Researchgate.
I cannot find a source for N.spinimana, only that the basonym for N.spinimanum was Cordilura spinimana.

Posted by sbushes over 2 years ago

All is fine - these specific names are not even synonyms, but homonyms.

the name of the species is obeys with the "gender" of the generic name (by rules of it's meaning in greek or latinic).

Posted by n2morelog over 2 years ago

@ophrys mentioned this in a message, suggesting that perhaps "someone looked at Norellisom-a and imagined it was feminine, so changed to spiniman-a to agree with that." ...But ..."it is a Greek neuter, so the Latin spiniman-um has the Latin neuter -um to agree with the Greek neuter in -a. "

Regardless of the logic though, as far as I can see in the curatorial guidelines - to avoid confusion (or debate) it should conform to external taxonomy above all else - which it seems, is not the case with this taxon swap (?)

Posted by sbushes over 2 years ago

For me, this name is simply familiar and consonant well)
I won't even spy on the answer - maybe it can make a replacement as is customary in fauna-eu.org ?
@treegrow Namaste! Whom else to interested and magic fairy helpfull) I'm agan, ex-entomokot.

Posted by n2morelog over 2 years ago

I agree that this taxon swap was ill-advised. The epithet spinimana was actually in gender agreement with the genus name and this was reversed by this taxon swap: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/σῶμα

The other Norellisoma species with latinized epithets also have neuter endings. I would support swapping the name back to Norellisoma spinimanum.

Posted by treegrow over 2 years ago

As I recall, both names were present and active in the iNat taxonomy and this was just an attempt to combine all observations under the one name. I don't remember why I opted for 'spinimana' rather than 'spinimanum' but, by all means, feel free to switch the valid name to Norellisoma spinimanum if you're convinced that is correct.

Posted by rfoster over 2 years ago

Ok, I see, makes sense.
Many thanks for getting back to me @rfoster and thanks for everyone's input.

I have now swapped it back - hopefully correctly - please let me know if anything looks amiss.
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/99035

Posted by sbushes over 2 years ago

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